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		<title>By: Five for Friday 7.30 &#124; Jeff Esposito&#039;s Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Five for Friday 7.30 &#124; Jeff Esposito&#039;s Blog</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Can Internet Buzz Actually Hurt Sales? – The buzz around the Old Spice videos won’t die. This post doesn’t beat a dead horse but brings up a honest assessment of why the campaign is not transitioning to direct sales – You can’t polish a turd. Now that statement alone brings the article into the top 5 of the week. I liked the campaign, but I am already an Old Spice customer, as I like the smell. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Can Internet Buzz Actually Hurt Sales? – The buzz around the Old Spice videos won’t die. This post doesn’t beat a dead horse but brings up a honest assessment of why the campaign is not transitioning to direct sales – You can’t polish a turd. Now that statement alone brings the article into the top 5 of the week. I liked the campaign, but I am already an Old Spice customer, as I like the smell. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MYN</title>
		<link>http://wordsushi.com/blog/can-internet-buzz-actually-hurt-sales/comment-page-1/#comment-531</link>
		<dc:creator>MYN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Robert - Interesting. I&#039;ll be very curious to see how these metrics play out in the next quarter. 

@ CC - That&#039;s exactly my point. Internet buzz alone doesn&#039;t do the trick. Look at how Dominos created buzz on their &quot;new formula&quot; campaign. Internet was a big component but the smallest of the 3 (print, tv, web) major components. 

I hope it doesn&#039;t hurt sales. That&#039;s why I&#039;m wondering if it does. But as a marketer you know as well as anyone there is good branding and over branding to the point where the message just begins to look more contrived than an episode of Grey&#039;s Anatomy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Robert &#8211; Interesting. I&#8217;ll be very curious to see how these metrics play out in the next quarter. </p>
<p>@ CC &#8211; That&#8217;s exactly my point. Internet buzz alone doesn&#8217;t do the trick. Look at how Dominos created buzz on their &#8220;new formula&#8221; campaign. Internet was a big component but the smallest of the 3 (print, tv, web) major components. </p>
<p>I hope it doesn&#8217;t hurt sales. That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m wondering if it does. But as a marketer you know as well as anyone there is good branding and over branding to the point where the message just begins to look more contrived than an episode of Grey&#8217;s Anatomy.</p>
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		<title>By: C.C. Chapman</title>
		<link>http://wordsushi.com/blog/can-internet-buzz-actually-hurt-sales/comment-page-1/#comment-530</link>
		<dc:creator>C.C. Chapman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been thinking a lot about this and how to react.

I completely understand what you are saying, but I don&#039;t agree with you. While a viral hit may not instantly generate sales, I don&#039;t think it in any way hurts sales ever.

True, by many Old Spice is an out of date and dead brand, but for me personally it is the deodorant I&#039;ve used forever. I don&#039;t use about or care much about any of their other products, but that product has always been on my dresser. The recent campaign didn&#039;t make me want to buy that brand any more or less. I buy it because it is a good product. Without a good product, NO marketing is going to save your ass.

As someone who makes their living helping brands create and execute campaigns based on the principals of Social Media I can&#039;t agree that any harm was done to the brands in any of the examples.

Sales were down before this campaign and we all have to wait and see if they go up or not. But, that being said, we have to remember that the online piece is just one component and a brand can&#039;t be launch, sustained or revived from online alone. The online buzz is a small piece of a MUCH bigger pie out there that every brand has to worry about and pay attention to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking a lot about this and how to react.</p>
<p>I completely understand what you are saying, but I don&#8217;t agree with you. While a viral hit may not instantly generate sales, I don&#8217;t think it in any way hurts sales ever.</p>
<p>True, by many Old Spice is an out of date and dead brand, but for me personally it is the deodorant I&#8217;ve used forever. I don&#8217;t use about or care much about any of their other products, but that product has always been on my dresser. The recent campaign didn&#8217;t make me want to buy that brand any more or less. I buy it because it is a good product. Without a good product, NO marketing is going to save your ass.</p>
<p>As someone who makes their living helping brands create and execute campaigns based on the principals of Social Media I can&#8217;t agree that any harm was done to the brands in any of the examples.</p>
<p>Sales were down before this campaign and we all have to wait and see if they go up or not. But, that being said, we have to remember that the online piece is just one component and a brand can&#8217;t be launch, sustained or revived from online alone. The online buzz is a small piece of a MUCH bigger pie out there that every brand has to worry about and pay attention to.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Freeman</title>
		<link>http://wordsushi.com/blog/can-internet-buzz-actually-hurt-sales/comment-page-1/#comment-528</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Freeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I think that your argument has some merit, I don&#039;t believe that there is data to support your conclusion about the Old Spice Guy and sales.
Two points:
A. Obviously we can&#039;t track the impact of this most recent campaign less than three weeks after it has aired. The sales data is premature at best, and the lasting impact of the campaign in terms of sales and repositioning is what is going to count.
B. The article that you site discussing the sales data of Old Spice is old and inaccurate (It excludes Walmart sales data. Yeah, let&#039;s exclude the biggest retailer in the nation and the data will still be good . . . right). Try reading http://bit.ly/cYoFjB or http://bit.ly/bWFnC7 for some better data.

Now we wait and see if it is another Snakes on a Plane, or if the Old Spice Guy is going to teach Susan Boyle how to do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I think that your argument has some merit, I don&#8217;t believe that there is data to support your conclusion about the Old Spice Guy and sales.<br />
Two points:<br />
A. Obviously we can&#8217;t track the impact of this most recent campaign less than three weeks after it has aired. The sales data is premature at best, and the lasting impact of the campaign in terms of sales and repositioning is what is going to count.<br />
B. The article that you site discussing the sales data of Old Spice is old and inaccurate (It excludes Walmart sales data. Yeah, let&#8217;s exclude the biggest retailer in the nation and the data will still be good . . . right). Try reading <a href="http://bit.ly/cYoFjB" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/cYoFjB</a> or <a href="http://bit.ly/bWFnC7" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/bWFnC7</a> for some better data.</p>
<p>Now we wait and see if it is another Snakes on a Plane, or if the Old Spice Guy is going to teach Susan Boyle how to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikel King</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikel King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True only turds dipped in gold or silver can be polished, but seriously who want a gold turd? Well ok don&#039;t answer that, I forgot for a moment about the Great Recession, so I&#039;m sure there are a bunch who would. That&#039;s not the point though...

Seriously even though I generally like the Old Spice products I do not enjoy the &#039;Old&#039; connotations... Perhaps it&#039;s time for Old Spice to rebrand?  Thank again it&#039;s not as band as some of the other brand form the late 70&#039;s and 80&#039;s. Still OS is better than Old Spice, ok maybe not. 

Anyway this is a great post and certainly food for though.

Cheers &amp; thanks!
Mikel King
@mikelking</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True only turds dipped in gold or silver can be polished, but seriously who want a gold turd? Well ok don&#8217;t answer that, I forgot for a moment about the Great Recession, so I&#8217;m sure there are a bunch who would. That&#8217;s not the point though&#8230;</p>
<p>Seriously even though I generally like the Old Spice products I do not enjoy the &#8216;Old&#8217; connotations&#8230; Perhaps it&#8217;s time for Old Spice to rebrand?  Thank again it&#8217;s not as band as some of the other brand form the late 70&#8242;s and 80&#8242;s. Still OS is better than Old Spice, ok maybe not. </p>
<p>Anyway this is a great post and certainly food for though.</p>
<p>Cheers &amp; thanks!<br />
Mikel King<br />
@mikelking</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the &quot;stock up&quot; explanation: I bought Old Spice as a result of the first commercial, but only did it when I needed more; it isn&#039;t an impulse buy, I don&#039;t think. I used to use the cologne a number of years ago (I&#039;m 33), but hadn&#039;t tried any in years.

Your asserting that Old Spice stinks is curious. Sure, you might not like the smell, but it&#039;s obviously nice enough that enough people like it for the company to stay afloat all these years. The liking of a scent is very subjective, and not something you can brush aside for everyone based on your personal feelings for it.

Axe is very successful,  no doubt in part because of it&#039;s ad campaigns. But i personally think it smells bad, and I know a bunch of people who do, too. Should Axe now be doomed to failure because I say it stinks?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the &#8220;stock up&#8221; explanation: I bought Old Spice as a result of the first commercial, but only did it when I needed more; it isn&#8217;t an impulse buy, I don&#8217;t think. I used to use the cologne a number of years ago (I&#8217;m 33), but hadn&#8217;t tried any in years.</p>
<p>Your asserting that Old Spice stinks is curious. Sure, you might not like the smell, but it&#8217;s obviously nice enough that enough people like it for the company to stay afloat all these years. The liking of a scent is very subjective, and not something you can brush aside for everyone based on your personal feelings for it.</p>
<p>Axe is very successful,  no doubt in part because of it&#8217;s ad campaigns. But i personally think it smells bad, and I know a bunch of people who do, too. Should Axe now be doomed to failure because I say it stinks?</p>
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		<title>By: MYN</title>
		<link>http://wordsushi.com/blog/can-internet-buzz-actually-hurt-sales/comment-page-1/#comment-525</link>
		<dc:creator>MYN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bettina - It&#039;s body wash, not cologne, which should have the same buy rate as shampoo, doll. 

@Ellen - The sales numbers are calculated to June. That&#039;s a whole quarter after the ad first aired and landed on YT. Apples or Oranges or not, I don&#039;t see the translation of the buzz being translated into anyone buying any of the fruit at all... because the quality of that fruit is questionable... which is the point of the post. 

@Chuck - But where in the original ad does it state that&#039;s the call to action. To me it looks like any ad trying to get me interested in a product so the call to action is implied that I should buy it. 

The second commercial (trying to recapture that lighting in a bottle) and those responses were crafted, by the timing, seemingly after these dismal sales reports were released. 

But even the last response video acknowledged the OSG was done. I think they realized the campaign didn&#039;t bring the ROI they hoped. Now, if those numbers rebound in the second half of the year we&#039;ll maybe see an OSG Xmas ad... 

@Peri - Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bettina &#8211; It&#8217;s body wash, not cologne, which should have the same buy rate as shampoo, doll. </p>
<p>@Ellen &#8211; The sales numbers are calculated to June. That&#8217;s a whole quarter after the ad first aired and landed on YT. Apples or Oranges or not, I don&#8217;t see the translation of the buzz being translated into anyone buying any of the fruit at all&#8230; because the quality of that fruit is questionable&#8230; which is the point of the post. </p>
<p>@Chuck &#8211; But where in the original ad does it state that&#8217;s the call to action. To me it looks like any ad trying to get me interested in a product so the call to action is implied that I should buy it. </p>
<p>The second commercial (trying to recapture that lighting in a bottle) and those responses were crafted, by the timing, seemingly after these dismal sales reports were released. </p>
<p>But even the last response video acknowledged the OSG was done. I think they realized the campaign didn&#8217;t bring the ROI they hoped. Now, if those numbers rebound in the second half of the year we&#8217;ll maybe see an OSG Xmas ad&#8230; </p>
<p>@Peri &#8211; Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Perri @bethebutterfly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perri @bethebutterfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic post.  One of the more interesting and well thought out that I have read in recent weeks.  
&quot;You can&#039;t polish a turd!&quot; - Such a classic line! lol

Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic post.  One of the more interesting and well thought out that I have read in recent weeks.<br />
&#8220;You can&#8217;t polish a turd!&#8221; &#8211; Such a classic line! lol</p>
<p>Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Tanowitz</title>
		<link>http://wordsushi.com/blog/can-internet-buzz-actually-hurt-sales/comment-page-1/#comment-523</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Tanowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re partially right. Yes, the world &quot;Old&quot; comes first, but the key problem here was that the Old Spice team was asking customers to engage in only half an action.

By getting people to respond to the Old Spice guy they got a list of people who were actually engaged and seeing the ads. Great first step. But now they have to get those people into stories to get them to BUY the products. This campaign didn&#039;t drive that action. 

In traditional marketing terms the &quot;call to action&quot; was to Tweet the Old Spice Guy... not to go and buy Old Spice.
 
While they couldn&#039;t get videos to respond to everyone, part of the response to people not called out in the ads should have been &quot;here is a coupon code for you to bring in.&quot; That could be a traditional print/cut coupon or a digital coupon via text message. Either way, they needed something to track whether this campaign worked to DRIVE SALES. 

It didn&#039;t. They squandered a great list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re partially right. Yes, the world &#8220;Old&#8221; comes first, but the key problem here was that the Old Spice team was asking customers to engage in only half an action.</p>
<p>By getting people to respond to the Old Spice guy they got a list of people who were actually engaged and seeing the ads. Great first step. But now they have to get those people into stories to get them to BUY the products. This campaign didn&#8217;t drive that action. </p>
<p>In traditional marketing terms the &#8220;call to action&#8221; was to Tweet the Old Spice Guy&#8230; not to go and buy Old Spice.</p>
<p>While they couldn&#8217;t get videos to respond to everyone, part of the response to people not called out in the ads should have been &#8220;here is a coupon code for you to bring in.&#8221; That could be a traditional print/cut coupon or a digital coupon via text message. Either way, they needed something to track whether this campaign worked to DRIVE SALES. </p>
<p>It didn&#8217;t. They squandered a great list.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellen Rossano</title>
		<link>http://wordsushi.com/blog/can-internet-buzz-actually-hurt-sales/comment-page-1/#comment-522</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellen Rossano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the daughter of an original &quot;Old Spice&quot; guy - my dad - the scent does have nice associations for me. Hubs uses some of the products, although the 14 yro is an Axe &quot;man.&quot; I thought the videos were hysterical, and I think the agency did a great job answering questions in almost-real time.
The fact that sales are down 7% in the first week after the campaign suggests that a viral ad campaign generates an immediate cash return-on-investment. We haven&#039;t bought any Old Spice products because we&#039;re not out of them at our house. Hubs hasn&#039;t been to the local bulk store-a-rama in a few weeks, where he stocks up.
Comparing the viral buzz of a single TV show or movie and subsequent disappointing sales is comparing proverbial apples and oranges. The Lost finale was a one-day event, and Snakes on a Plane was a bad movie.
I think most of Susan Boyle&#039;s record sales came around the holidays - the CD&#039;s were a popular gift. The sales that resulted from Susan Boyle buzz happened over many months.
I think Old Spice will have their usual gift sets around the holidays, and between that and the usual consumer buying patterns - &quot;I&#039;ll buy more when I run out&quot; - sales over a few months will be a better indicator of the success of this campaign than measuring sales within a week of the buzz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the daughter of an original &#8220;Old Spice&#8221; guy &#8211; my dad &#8211; the scent does have nice associations for me. Hubs uses some of the products, although the 14 yro is an Axe &#8220;man.&#8221; I thought the videos were hysterical, and I think the agency did a great job answering questions in almost-real time.<br />
The fact that sales are down 7% in the first week after the campaign suggests that a viral ad campaign generates an immediate cash return-on-investment. We haven&#8217;t bought any Old Spice products because we&#8217;re not out of them at our house. Hubs hasn&#8217;t been to the local bulk store-a-rama in a few weeks, where he stocks up.<br />
Comparing the viral buzz of a single TV show or movie and subsequent disappointing sales is comparing proverbial apples and oranges. The Lost finale was a one-day event, and Snakes on a Plane was a bad movie.<br />
I think most of Susan Boyle&#8217;s record sales came around the holidays &#8211; the CD&#8217;s were a popular gift. The sales that resulted from Susan Boyle buzz happened over many months.<br />
I think Old Spice will have their usual gift sets around the holidays, and between that and the usual consumer buying patterns &#8211; &#8220;I&#8217;ll buy more when I run out&#8221; &#8211; sales over a few months will be a better indicator of the success of this campaign than measuring sales within a week of the buzz.</p>
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		<title>By: Bettina Tizzy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bettina Tizzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or, can it be that folks are just finishing up their last bottles of stinky competitors&#039; colognes?

Don&#039;t shoot your business in the foot, doll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or, can it be that folks are just finishing up their last bottles of stinky competitors&#8217; colognes?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t shoot your business in the foot, doll.</p>
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